Atf home page bureau of alcohol, tobacco, firearms and. Similarly, there was a good deal of debate over whether or not it was legal to shoulder an ar pistol. Atf has previously determined that attaching the brace to a firearm does not alter the classification of the firearm or subject. World renowned and the choice for many of the premier global military, law. The sb 15 is an arm brace which attaches to a gun, allowing users to fire a larger pistol with one hand. A number of individuals have been building ar pistols or other similar pistols that have utilized a stabilizing brace. For example would this cover something like the sbpt locking collar for the sig brace. Yes, it is legal to shoulder an ar15 pistol equipped with. The atf says they just clarified a misunderstanding, but the industry was stuck with what they put in black and white on paper, not what they. Ar arm brace atf letter needed michigan gun owners. Is sig the only one that markets for the ar brace, or does century make one too.
Sig mpx, hk mp5, kriss vector, ar15, scorpion evo, uzi all with sb tactical braces. After doing some research i came to the conclusion it is legal to shoulder the sig arm brace. Atf reverses stance on shouldering sig brace page 1 of 14 archived. Atf prosecutes ohio man for ar pistol with brace range 365.
As the letter clearly states, shouldering an ar15 style pistol, even one equipped with a sig arm brace, does not make the firearm a regulated sbr. So, in the american rifleman there is a new article about the atf and the brace and the shooting position. He found his partner in sig sauer, which makes a variety of hightech modern firearms and likely saw a way to expand its reach into the pistol market with the sb 15 brace. This video takes a look at whether or not you can shoulder an ar pistol with or with out a sig brace. Your support is critical to our mission and channel. Sb tactical redefined the pistol market and ignited an uprising as the inventors of the pistol stabilizing brace. Over the years the atf has gone back and forth over what they want to allow.
Based on the letter, atf is taking the position that because a stabilizing brace is not an integral part of the firearm, it is not relevant to the overall length measurement. No one could believe that someone developed this so called brace to attach to ar 15 pistols. Looks like the atf now says you can shoot an ar 15 with a pistol brace off your shoulder without being accused of creating a short barreled rifle. He quickly sold the rights to produce the arm brace to sig sauer. In a shocking announcement the atf has penned an open letter which you can see below. Using the brace as a stock while installed on a pistol constitutes a redesign of the device according to the atf and misuse of the brace may subject the user to. The atf confirmed their stance in a response to sergeant joe bradley of the greenwood police department in colorado, who wrote a letter. Any pistol equipped with a vertical grip and stabilizing brace is now considered an any other weapon, a category of weapon that is supposed to encompass all weapons that cant be classified as rifles, shotguns, or handguns. The invention of the stabilizer brace ar15 pistols used to be.
I have a shockwave on my 308 pistol and from what i have read over the years, its to stabilize against the arm. Black aces tactical, the sigtac sb15 arm brace and atfs. Those who would use the brace in another way than how it was designed, were outside the jurisdiction of the atf and sig sauer could not be held responsible for the the actions of these folks either. Last year the gun blogosphere completely exploded when sig released what they called an ar 15 pistol brace. The atf alleges that the added parts created a short barreledrifle, which the defendant did not register as required by the national firearms act. Firearm industry consulting group ficg attorney adam kraut has been following the sig brace determinations by atf and originally wrote black aces tactical, the sigtac sb15 arm brace and atfs misguided determination letter, wherein he cautioned on what seemed and has now been verified to be a change in position by the ftisb regarding the. Atfs perplexing interpretation of stabilizing braces from adam kraut on.
This is a discussion on atf reverses standing on brace within the sig sauer rifles forums, part of the sig sauer forum category. For those of you just crawling out of caves, the sig brace is the handy stabilizing device that was meant to be strapped to your forearm to help you stabilize an ar pistol, or. In a nut shell, the tldr version the atf now says its ok to every now. Sig sauer responds to the atf about the ar15 brace hd mrgunsngear channel. That will backpedal and revise the current standing of the arm brace that are equipped on thousands of ar pistols across the country. Atf or batf issues new letter in 2017 stating using a brace on your shoulder is not a violation. In a march 21, 2017 letter from the atf to the inventor of the pistol stabilizing brace, the atf reversed its opinion. Sb tactical sb15 stabilizing brace for ar pistol buffer. Firearm discussion and resources from ar15, ak47, handguns and more.
At less than an inch thick, it can be adapted to practically every platform on the market. Sig sauer responds to the atf about the ar15 brace hd. Sig sauer sb 15 stabilizing brace retrieved from sigsauer. First, the atf has never issued an official public opinion letter stating that ar pistols with such accessories cheek rests, pistol braces, etc. Atf reverses opinion on ar15 short barrels with braces again.
Atf, firearms technology industry services branch ftisb, which accompanied your. Shouldering an ar pistol with a sig brace personal. After back and forth between sig s compliance officer and the atf and a ruling that the accessory was kosher for pistols, the sb 15 brace finally debuted under the sig. Consequently, the attachment of the sb 15 brace to an ar type pistol alone. The bureau of alcohol, tobacco, firearms and explosives has ruled that firing an ar15 pistol from the shoulder using a product such as the sig sauer sb15 pistol stabilizing brace will not cause the weapon to be reclassified as a short barreled rifle sbr. Atf has previously determined that attaching the brace to a firearm does not alter the classification of the firearm or subject the. The atfs refined position is that placing a psb against the shoulder does not, in and of itself, necessarily alter the classification from pistol to shortbarreled rifle sbr. The patented tailhook mod 1 is the most compact pistol brace in the world. Adjustable pistol stabilizing brace mounted on a semiautomatic pistol. By the way, there are now multiple pistols not just ar15s l to r. The same receiver can accept an interchangeable shoulder stock or pistol grip, and a long 16 or more inches in length or short less than 16 inches barrel. Using sigs arm brace to poke the atf gun nuts media. Is it possible that atf has now changed its position on the sigtac sb15 arm brace and is getting ready to issue a determination letter which would result in an individual shouldering an ar15 type pistol with the brace converting the firearm into an illegal short barreled rifle. Atf reverses opinion ar15 arm braces no longer make an.
He was, understandably, very well versed on the subjectand very nice about it even though hes been on the phone all day, repeating himself ad nauseam. Steve aryan of grey fox industries discusses considerations when shouldering an ar pistol using the sig stabilizing brace or a pistol buffer tube. Discontinued by the factory product has been discontinued and no. Recently the freedom shoppe in connecticut was visited by the atf over possible nfa violations. Whoops we atf did it againarbitrary determinations over.
Stabilizing braces mainstreamed in 20 with sig sauers introduction of the. In january 2015 the atf released an open letter answering their concerns. Do you guys think someone would question me at the range. The open letter made it clear that stabilizing braces are perfectly legal accessories for large handguns or pistols. Since mine came from a sb47 setup, figured id try to give him the proper atf letter to go with it. Atf backtracks on shouldering sig arm brace apparently shouldering the rather magical sig arm brace on your ar or ak pistols is now illegal. Would it be smart to keep the letter from the atf to sig printed out and in the car. Til i guess this is in reply to your recent email to the firearms industry programs branch fipb bureau of alcohol, tobacco, firearms and explosives atf seeking information on measuring the overall length of a pistol fitted with an arm stabilizing brace. The guns are sometimes manufactured with picatinny attachment rails similar to the ar15, but in various calibers. Our catalog features detailed information about our cuttingedge products and our commitment to stay ahead of the curve while providing hardcore shooters what they need. The sig brace is not a stock, so it is not permanently physically attached to prevent it from shifting or spinning. Atf determines ar15 pistol with stabilizing brace can not be.
Atf rescinds prior methods to measure a firearms overall. Adjustable ar15 brace approved by batf page 3 ar15. The prince law firms blog recently brought attention to the case of u. Keep all the advantages of a pistol while adding a third point of contact for improved precision with the sb tactical sb15 pistol stabilizing brace. The rise and fall of the sb15 sig brace grand view. Late in 2012, the atf approved of a device that fit on the buffer tube of ar15 style pistols. Ar 15 pistol brace reversal of opinion by atf the high road. Federal regulators reversed a twoyearold decision prohibiting specific use of an arm brace for ar pistols after readdressing the issue with the company that designed the original model. Sig sauer ar15 pistol sbx stabilizing arm brace brownells.
Please note that this is only 1 letter and the atf has been known to randomly change their minds on things in the past, so be careful out there. This guy built a brand new ar 15 upper in 300 blackout with a pistol barrel and forend. I just got off the phone with a very nice gentleman at atf tech branchwho was fielding these calls today. Atfs perplexing interpretation of stabilizing braces recoil. I got a century one im going to gift to someone for their ar pistol build. Atf reverses opinion on ar15 short barrels with braces. Atf says firing ar15 pistol from shoulder will not cause. I agree with the atfs assessment of the arm brace, but i think we should all take issue with those who are misusing the product. It doesnt secure the brace to the tube, you can still slide the brace right off the tube, it basically just creates a. Compact thunder top 15 nextgen ar pistols now the pendulum has swung back the other way as sb tactical has received a clarification letter from the atf, the upshot of which is that shouldering the companys pistol stabilizing brace doesnt constitute a redesign. Does anyone have a scanned copy of a atf letter for their ar arm brace they can share.
According to victor benson, proprietor of the freedom shoppe, the atf is measuring his firearms with the brace folded and declaring his firearms as illegal aows. Several letters from the atf have both clarified and confused the issue, but per the most recent atf clarification, the use of a brace does not make the pistol a rifle just because it can be shouldered. These items are intended to improve accuracy by using the operators forearm to provide stable support for the artype pistol. Well thanks to the perseverance of sb tactical, it seems atf has clarified the analytical framework it used to get from a to b, at least in relation to sb tacticals products. Angry politicians started crying foul over the sig shoulder brace saga. Sb tactical ceo explains latest atf letter youtube. Atf reverses position on sb tacticals pistol stabilizing brace. Atf is a law enforcement agency in the united states department of justice that protects our communities from violent criminals, criminal organizations, the illegal use and trafficking of firearms, the illegal use and storage of explosives, acts of arson and bombings, acts of terrorism, and the illegal diversion of alcohol and tobacco products. Consequently, the attachment of the sb15 brace to an artype pistol alone. Say i bought this arm brace and was shouldering it on a 11.
But as of now, the stabilizing brace is once again a viable alternative for occasionally shouldering your ar pistol. The atf s refined position is that placing a psb against the shoulder does not, in and of itself, necessarily alter the classification from pistol to shortbarreled rifle sbr. If you havent heard it already, the batfe has issued another letter opining on the use of sig braces. Sig sauer atf clarifies ruling on pistol stabilizing braces. So, the atf released a statement that said shouldering a pistol brace would make your pistol an sbr, which is illegal. He put a sig stabilizing brace on it with the locking strap, so now he has an ar pistol. Atf clarifies ruling on pistol stabilizing braces sig sauer.
Adjustable pistol stabilizing brace atf letters the bureau of alcohol, tobacco, firearms and explosives has issued several letters regarding the legality of the sb tactical pistol stabilizing brace, including this one from 2015. You could fire a braceequipped ar pistol from your hip, your chest, even your forehead. It made one handed shooting of these firearms much easier, and hence more accurate. The atf had communicated that fact to various manufacturers. Since its storm onto the market, the sb 15 has been commonly paired with ar15 style pistols. Pistol brace and the atf ruling page 4 of 4 archived. Thats the moral of the story of the sb15 pistol stabilizing brace which launched a revolution in the arstyle pistol market that in less than one year has collapsed into uncertainty. Atf reverses opinion ar15 arm braces no longer make an sbr when shouldered.
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